Re: merge upload with ad trailer
I hear you SportsGamingTV.com, that's why I haven't made a move one way or another towards a different player yet. I'm looking to make sure that the player I finally go with will have staying power and flexibility to work with the kind of advertising I'm hoping to provide through my site. That's why I think the features discussed in this thread are so important. If we can get this to work on vshare, I feel confident that we will have a great platform to generate real revenues from our sites and not simply be "another you-tube clone".
If Galnet can get this thing working with the Agriya player, that'll be the player I go with - it's already feature-rich as it is, but if we can pull off this little bit extra, I can hear the Katchingos rolling in!
Re: merge upload with ad trailer
From what I saw on the agriya forum, their YT clone doesnt offer it yet either. Same thing for CS clone, which is similar to ours. Alstrasoft is the only one I see claiming to have a solution, but I've found them to be totally unreliable. I've never seen anything of quality come from them.
The one good thing I can say about agriya (even though they are vastly overpriced) is that I did see galnet able to get logos to display before and after his videos. Of course, he may be doing those manually as well, I dont know, but if it is automated and instantly applied to anything that gets uploaded, then that's only a short step away from having video played before and after the file.
Re: merge upload with ad trailer
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Originally Posted by SportsGamingTV.com
That is what is amazing to me. Judging from pageviews on the different threads it is discussed, it is surely one of the topics that generates more interest. I'm not sure why more people dont come to say 'yes admin, we would love it if you could find a way to do this'.
It's because they're too busy watching their own pornos :D All that poonani has gone and made them blind to the posibilities of real profit. Or maybe they're too busy fending off those who are leaching their bandwidth and struggling with more technical issues?
OR maybe they're already rolling in the $$$ and don't need to throw in any extra advertising :lol:
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The XML is no problem at all now. I've figured this part out on installing Agyria Player onto my own site. The problem I have is fully understanding what is required of the script.
1 of 2 options:
1. A preroll advert runs - then main video - then preroll
or
2. An advert runs once and then the main video.
I dare say that if giving the time to study everything I will be able to come up with an add-on which would allow this to work.
Re: merge upload with ad trailer
I personally think that #1 is the best way to go. I think that if people have to watch an advert before each video, they wont be watching too many videos. The problem with putting it at the end is that they'll likely click on when the advert starts to play, but I would rather have that happen than to have them stop watching.
Doing it this way, the ad can be displayed at the end where it is unobtrusive to the user. I would personally just use the pre-roll for a short 3-4 second station id, mostly because it's better branding than a watermark when it comes to embedded videos.
A better method of advertising may also be the overlay image, seen in an example at the url below. It looks to me like it's basically a fancy watermark. Would be nice to have something like this come in after about 15 seconds of play and stay up for 5-10 seconds.
http://www.jeroenwijering.com/extras/ad ... ments.html
Just my thoughts.
Re: merge upload with ad trailer
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Originally Posted by Whistler
By the way Gerbil, having played with your hack, I noticed that with the current player, the embedded video (when playing at a different site) has a problem playing the pre-roll and the video in one flowing motion. It plays the pre-roll, then stops (so anyone watching it might wonder what's going on, as it is not the video they are expecting). In order to get the actual video to play after the pre-roll, you have to hit the "next" button, which appears next to the "play" button (to the right) when the pre-roll has finished playing.
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<playlist version="1" xmlns="http://xspf.org/ns/0/">
<trackList>
<track>
<title>[A Title]</title>
<creator>[content]</creator>
<location>[full path to pre/post roll video]</location>
<image>[full path to image to display prior to video play]</image>
<album>postroll</album>
</track>
<track>
<title>[video title]</title>
<creator>[content]</creator>
<location>[full path to main video]v</location>
<info>[URL to direct to when clicked]</info>
<image>[full path to image to display prior to video play]</image>
<album>overlay</album>
</track>
</trackList>
</playlist>
Note the bit : <album>postroll</album> this will make it run almost continuously I hope - let me have your feedback
If you go back to my proof of concept link you now get taken to another page when you click on the watermark.
On the subject of watermarks ... the fact that vshare has one by default is what stops image overlay from working.
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Originally Posted by galnet
The XML is no problem at all now. I've figured this part out on installing Agyria Player onto my own site. The problem I have is fully understanding what is required of the script.
Hi galnet, when you say no problem now do you mean that you've automated the process of generating the xml file or you've got to grips with how it works?
Re: merge upload with ad trailer
I've got to grips on how it works. I'm working away on this and will have it all available hopefully soon.
Cheers,
Mat.
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There are cheap ones as well. Several run from $28 to $60. It seems that a lot of them started with the same basic script as vshare. The difference is that vshare is actually working to expand and improve their product, whereas most are just selling scripts full of bugs.
Now if only we could get these videos ads implemented. :D
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Aha :) Admin has visited us - if only to prune a post - cest la vie.
Hey Admin - I wasn't knocking you guys! I just really would like to see this feature implemented and so do quite a few others.
Although it looks like the same few people bang on about it in your forums there is a real bubble outside. The fact I've 'hacked' (more like cobbled) a work around together, it is still a labour intensive process ergo not nice to do at the moment.
Surely it would be easy for you guys to add a code hook maybe after the flv conversion process that does what's needed?
How bout your thoughts on pre/post roll ads?
Editable overlays using the same xml file?
Can you give us an idea of when you might add this function?
Thinking about it ...
... I'll bet your playing with us :)
... I'll bet you've already added something into the next release that will shut us up for an hour or two :)
Hey Galnet :) - How you getting on?
Got any alpha we can tweak? :lol:
Re: merge upload with ad trailer
What happen with this thread. Interested in the script, nothing fancy only that could place adds (prferably pre roll) from a list and place it on the video (any posted video).
* Must know if something can be done before purchasing.