need help with my tables

**gotbeeftv** · 10-27-2008, 01:03 AM

can someone PLEEAAASE tell me what I am doing wrong ...

check out my site: http://www.gotbeef.tv/

im trying to create a custom site using tables, but my tables are showing gaps in between them.
How can i get rid of the gaps?

thank you!

**bplex** · 10-27-2008, 01:20 PM

This is just from taking a quick look at your site:

1. Your table widths are way to big. It is good design practice to never make a page bigger than 1024 pixels in width (yours is 1200).
2. You have a few misspellings in your table tags. You may want to review those.
3. You have a ton of colspan's, but the numbers on them do not add up. I don't know if you know what a colspan is or not so I would suggest that you review a table tutorial and adjust them correctly.
4. I counted as least one "gap" caused by a table row that simply had a colspan in it and nothing more.

**gotbeeftv** · 10-28-2008, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by bplex

This is just from taking a quick look at your site:

1. Your table widths are way to big. It is good design practice to never make a page bigger than 1024 pixels in width (yours is 1200).
2. You have a few misspellings in your table tags. You may want to review those.
3. You have a ton of colspan's, but the numbers on them do not add up. I don't know if you know what a colspan is or not so I would suggest that you review a table tutorial and adjust them correctly.
4. I counted as least one "gap" caused by a table row that simply had a colspan in it and nothing more.

thanks for the feedback, but here are my comments...

1. why cant it be bigger width than 1024 pixels? i want my site made for larger resolution monitors.
2. which misspellings do you see? i cant find any.
3. i have a ton of colspan cus i need it to be used.
4. as far as a row that had nothing there, there is something there, more tables.

thanks

**bplex** · 10-28-2008, 05:29 PM

1. You can make your site bigger than 1024 px. It's just not good web design practice. You can make it however big you want.
2. Can't remember off the top of my head. I believe there were a couple of "align" tags that were misspelled.
3. You may need them, but if the numbers do not add up, the browser is going to add more columns so that they do. The result is that it will push out your site further than what you may intend for it.
4. No, there was an empty colspan. It opened and closed with nothing in it. It may have been auto-closed by whatever program you were using to create your page.

Further, another thing to note is that while all of your tables are 1200px in size, you may have forgotten that the main page is composed of several templates, not just the index.tpl (there is also the right.tpl, header.tpl, and footer.tpl). When I looked at it the other day, I noticed that you had tables running all the way up to the right.tpl tags. You may want to check that as well.

**gotbeeftv** · 10-28-2008, 05:46 PM

ahhh .. okay, thanks for the reply.

and speaking of right, header, etc tpl files .. what file actually calls those files?
is there an index.php file that calls it?

**bplex** · 10-28-2008, 05:58 PM

Yes. Almost all of the .php files call the header and footer. The index.php file calls them along with the right.tpl file.

**gotbeeftv** · 10-28-2008, 06:19 PM

i looked at the index.php file ... but it just had some random garbage in it....

can you copy and paste the code in here, so i can see?

**bplex** · 10-28-2008, 06:25 PM

Hahaha... random garbage. I like that :). Unfortunately, that random "garbage" IS the actual file. The current version of vShare is encrypted and cannot be edited or modified (outside of what you can do in the templates) and a very small handful of other files.

**gotbeeftv** · 10-28-2008, 07:05 PM

haha .. no wonder i couldnt figure out the coded "garbage"
i was just trying to see how the file was calling the .tpl files.

thanks for all your help. i'll give it another shot, and make my widths smaller.

thanks again!

**Scuzz** · 10-29-2008, 12:41 AM

Speaking of widths, here's some info from our last 950,000 visitors.
It may help you decide what resolution to build for.

1. 1024x768 379,543 - 39.92%
2. 1280x1024 138,734 - 14.59%
3. 1280x800 137,260 - 14.44%
4. 1440x900 60,879 - 6.40%
5. 1680x1050 52,607 - 5.53%
6. 800x600 49,256 - 5.18%
7. 1152x864 29,133 - 3.06%
8. 1280x768 19,196 - 2.02%
9. 1920x1200 15,576 - 1.64%
10. 1280x960 12,466 - 1.31%