OK, I worked with the user file, which is why a local package to do my videos is not an issue this is an issue when users upload wmv or asf. Thanks for the Sorenson tip, when I get the 500 I would love it.

Anyway, it may be an issue with windows encoder 10. I am going to back install and older encoder and try 8 or 9 on that file and get back to you.

The issue with the 160x120 is still there and it will not make thumbnails but does encode on older asf. I will do one with the version 8 or 9 as an wmv at that size and see what happens.

Thank you all for the updates on the ffmepg commands (in another thread) to do wmv, but still did not work on that one file. I will test more.